Ok.. This is my first REAL cycle I plan on taking. I did do a stupid inexperienced cycle about 3 years ago, it was sust 500mg a week and deca at 600mg a week, with no PCT. Moron, I know... Im back now, I been dieting properly and have a better base to work with now than I did then. Plus Ive been researching more... I would still like help with my cycle.. I wanna do Dbol at 30mg ed for 4 weeks, and run a test beside it for 8 weeks, maybe 12. Im unsure on which test I should run. If I could get help with which you would think is best for me that would be great. I also will be running a PCT about 3 weeks after my final test shot. If you could tell me what the proper dosages for the PCT would be, that would be great. heres my basic stats

5'10"
172lbs
11% bf

Thanks

I say do something like this...

Week 1-12 Test E 500mg per week (250mg Mon&Thur)
Week 1-6 Tbol 50mg every day

Week 14-16 PCT (everyone has their own preference).

Maybe some HCG from week 4-12 and Nova/Clomid for PCT(you might not need both nolva dn clomid though).

First off what are your goals for this cycle. Knowing that will help everyone guide you in the right direction. It seems as if you are wanting to bulk by looking at what you have posted. Also how old are you bro?

Rulez beat me to it...what he said

I like that he suggested tbol instead of dbol
you can also run this cycle for 10 weeks if you want it to be shorter

Nitrateman

maybe order in some Proviron and run it 25-50mgs day
also make sure you run a liver cleanser like LIV52 because of the orals

Nitrateman wrote:maybe order in some Proviron and run it 25-50mgs day
also make sure you run a liver cleanser like LIV52 because of the orals

Eeek! I forgot to mention that.

Rulez wrote:I say do something like this...

Week 1-12 Test E 500mg per week (250mg Mon&Thur)
Week 1-6 Tbol 50mg every day

Week 14-16 PCT (everyone has their own preference).

Maybe some HCG from week 4-12 and Nova/Clomid for PCT(you might not need both nolva dn clomid though).

This would be a good cycle, but if you wanted you could probably run the Tbol at 40mg everyday. That's what I did and got great gains from it. You can always bump the Tbol up after a few weeks...

Nitrateman wrote:Rulez beat me to it...what he said

I like that he suggested tbol instead of dbol
you can also run this cycle for 10 weeks if you want it to be shorter

Nitrateman

maybe order in some Proviron and run it 25-50mgs day
also make sure you run a liver cleanser like LIV52 because of the orals

where do you get LIV52 and how often/much do you take of it? I am going to start my similar cycle in the next couple of months and was wondering about that. thanks.

i would run the test 10-12 weeks,and bump to rulz once you try the t-bol you'll probably like it more!!

test cyp or test e: 500 mgs a week
t-bol: 40 mgs a day for 6 weeks
run liv 52 thru cycle
hcg weeks 3-10 250-500 iu's twice a week

P.C.T.: (start 10-14 days after last inject)
clomid: 150 mgs week1,100 mgs week 2,50 mgs week3
nolva: 60 mgs week1,40 mgs week 2,20 mgs week 3

Wheat wrote:where do you get LIV52 and how often/much do you take of it? I am going to start my similar cycle in the next couple of months and was wondering about that. thanks.

****** sells it.....but you can google it online and buy it most anywhere.

I started with 1 tab in the morning and 2 tabs at night....but only take 1 in the morning and at night now.

Welcome Aboard

So I am new to this as well and curious about what cycle to start with? I'm 37 5'7 215lbs goal is to cut weight but build solid muscle. I'm a hunting guide so bulk is not good for it makes it to hard to walk around in the mountains !!! Any help would be greatly appreciated
Thanks