13.150mg Clomid ED
14.100mg ED
15.50mg ED

in 13 it says clomid ED & in 14,15 it says ED is this the same as clomid ED or 14,15 is something different.

Gradyd164 wrote:13.150mg Clomid ED
14.100mg ED
15.50mg ED

in 13 it says clomid ED & in 14,15 it says ED is this the same as clomid ED or 14,15 is something different.

I am pretty sure that ED meens each day. so it would read
13.150mg Clomid each day
14.100mg Clomid each day
15.50mg Clomid each day
Althought I believe that most people here would now recomend a different pct.

I am about to start the following cycle. Can someone tell me if it is a good cycle and if I should start the Nolvadex earlier? CYCLE: 8 week cycle - Testosterone Enanthanate 250mg and Deca Durabolin (Organon) 200mg every Monday and Thursday, start Nolvadex 10mg everyday starting the Monday of the 7th week and take for 4 weeks. After cycle start Clomid 50mg twice a day for 10 days and then 50mg once a day for 14 days start Clomid 10 days after last shot of Test & Deca. Start HCG 1500iu x 3, take same day start Clomid - take HCG every 5th day.
Please tell me if this is a good cycle. I have never done juice before.
Thanks: Fireman

hey bro... i am under the understanding that hcg is supposed to be taken during they cycle itself and stopped prior to actually starting pct. This is in order to keep your boys from actually ever shutting totally down....from what i understand, which makes it easier to recover during pct. just a lil knowledge ive picked up since ive joined this lil site. Also.....I am pretty sure that the test should be dragged out two weeks longer than the deca. You might want to consider running both at least 10 weeks or so in order to get the results your looking for. Once again....this is just knowledge ive kind of ran across....i gotta give all that credit to the main men here on xxl......these guys know there stuff......Oh another thing.....i was told to look into letro for during cycle in place of nolva...so you might look into that also...

Hi...I am brand new to this and would appreciate any suggestions for a first cycle for an older guy like myself. I am 57 . Any other "seniors' out there who can lend a helping hand? Thanks, Rob

I really like cycle number 2. I can use Duraplex 100 as the Deca, correct?

If Testaplex E 250 is 250mg/ml and the vial is 10ml, I'd need only one, correct?

Same with 100 mg/ml Duraplex 100, which means I would need 2 vials..

Clomiplex is the same as CLomid?

Can I mix the Test E and Deca in the same syringe for every injection? Like, 1ml duraplex and .6 ml test e twice a week?

please let me know if all this is right.


I plan to use all Axiolab gear, what's a good place to buy from? Thanks bros

sorry but i am new to this sorta definition brands.. i have this cycle that was posted in this website, could some on please let me know what the short definitions mean? im sorry i am such a newbie at this.. iv herd of the deca.
it is just that when i go to buy this i wanna buy the right stuff..
ie what dose enth.. and ed mean.. ir when i purches it is that what exactly what it is called. i have done alote reserch on first cycle food and so on. so i belive i am ready to buy but i just wanna make sure i am buying the right ones. ty.
also if some on could pm me a good trusted site.. if possible.. i could give an msn or something.. thank you so much



Cycle#3 Good for 20-30lbs.
Wk..Enth..Deca
1.....400...300
2.....400...300
3.....400...300
4.....400...300
5.....400...300
6.....400...300
7.....400...300
8.....400...300
9.....400...300
10...400...300
11.off
12.off
13.150mg Clomid ED
14.100mg ED
15.50mg ED

Great to be back on again. Cheers to all and thanks for the welcome.
Triton04

ImporteXBUILT wrote:I really like cycle number 2. I can use Duraplex 100 as the Deca, correct?
If Testaplex E 250 is 250mg/ml and the vial is 10ml, I'd need only one, correct?
Same with 100 mg/ml Duraplex 100, which means I would need 2 vials..
Clomiplex is the same as CLomid?
Can I mix the Test E and Deca in the same syringe for every injection? Like, 1ml duraplex and .6 ml test e twice a week?
please let me know if all this is right.
I plan to use all Axiolab gear, what's a good place to buy from? Thanks bros

how many weeks do you actually want the cycle to be? what is your PCT going to look like? Have you ever run a cycle before, and what are your goals for this cycle i.e. are you wanting to just bulk, cut or what? yes you can mix Test E and Deca in the same syringe. As far as a place to buy from, don't ask for sources in the open board bro, just do your research I am sure you can figure it out!

what about doing sus 325 1cc w/ tren e 200 1cc eod and stan 50 tabs while doing 3 weeks on cyx3 then off...repeat with clomid and hcg post cycle? Any advice?

nice, very helpful insight. i'm looking into what my first cycle might consist of and this is good intel.
thx yall

im thinking about doing sust. and methanoplex for my first cycle ive done alot of research on the two and it seems they would go good together, any insight? what about dosing and pct.... thanks

mr.fish232 wrote:im thinking about doing sust. and methanoplex for my first cycle ive done alot of research on the two and it seems they would go good together, any insight? what about dosing and pct.... thanks

Mr. Fish! I have had this coversation with you many times bro, LOL! Go to the cycles portion of the forum and ask. I know how you look and eat, along with training. These folks don't though, so do that first. Everyone will tell you to do a Test only cycle first. We are here to help you, and want you to grow grow grow........

Biggin concurs with SM!

Some more good info "Thanx"

Good cycle for beginners! Personally I used it 2 years ago when started to train - my first experience and it was without negative aspects))

3 Beginner Steroid Cycles That Will Pack on Muscle Fast

You are asking yourself right now whether you should use steroids or not, and you have no idea what to use and how much. You want to stay safe and you want some solid results. What do you do?
Well friend, that is totally up to you and your conscience. But chances are you’re going to do it and the reality of steroid use, so let’s assume you are going to do a cycle.
Below are 3 different beginner steroid cycles that will pack on some good mass and are relatively safe. I don’t advocate steroid “abuse” or higher dosing than necessary, so what you’ll see below are cycles that would be safe to use and more mild on recovery than much of what you may have already read out there, yet effective as hell at the same time!!
Cycle 1- TESTOSTERONE ONLY

I’ve already talked about the 1 vial steroid cycle enough in the past, let’s get into the beginner 500mg/wk test cycle.
What you’ll need are 2/ 10ml bottles of testosterone enanthate or cypionate. Test E and Test cyp are ok to inject just once/wk so they are convenient and very effective. Also, testosterone is one of the less faked compounds out there, so chances are that what you’re getting is real, unlike many other more exotic compounds on the market.
The type of needles you want that are easiest and safe to use are 23 GAUGE/3ML/1″ syringes and they can be bought online if your local pharmacy will not sell them to you. Laws vary state to state.
You will inject 2 cc’s 1x per week for 10 weeks. You will inject into your butt cheek and the following week the opposite one. hen you stick the needle in, be sure to pull back on the plunger about 1/8 of an inch first, and if you see blood then do not inject because you’re in a vein. Simply re-inject in a different area on the same glute.
The test will take roughly 2-3 wks before it really starts “kicking in” and at that point you’ll notice increased sex drive, increased strength, and increased sense of well being. You may notice some acne coming on. Hey, all I’m going to say is it’s part of the game sometimes, and usually it subsides once you get used to the hormones.
I never ran any anti-e alongside a cycle of just 500mg/wk test. Honestly I never did and I never had any issues with gyno. But everyone is different and if it makes you feel better then use some nolvadex @ 10mg/day. In 10 wks you could experience gains of a solid 20 lbs of muscle off just testosterone alone and this would make for a solid first cycle!!

Cycle 2 – TEST/DBOL

Ok, so you’re dead set on a stack for a first cycle. Is it going to kill you to do a stack your first cycle?
No it’s not. Do I think it’s absolutely necessary? No I don’t, but if you’re trying to make damn good and sure you’re packing 20-25 lbs on the frame in something like 8 wks then be my guest.
What you’ll need are 200 Dbol tabs that are 5mg each, or 100 Dbol tabs that are 10mg each. Theyre are higher mg tabs out there but I don’t like them and splitting them is a fucking pain in the ass, not to mention I personally think 90% of high mg tabs are highly underdosed.
If you have 5mg tabs then use 5 tabs split up during day for just shy of 6 wks (40 days total) or if 10mg tabs then you’re going 2 1/2 tabs/day for 40 days. I like good old fashioned 5mg tabs the best, and I always felt stronger when I split them up throughout the day.
On the test, 1 bottle is fine, and run the “1 vial test cycle” I have on the site, with Dbol in the first 6 wks. 20-25 lbs very easily can be gained off that, and I’d wait to go to 500mg/wk test the next cycle.
Could you go 500mg/wk this cycle? Yes, but why would you when you can already potentially pack that kind of mass on that quickly on what I’ve talked about right here?
You want to take as little as needed to get the job done, this way you can only go up if you need to. You’re only going to gain so much in a couple months anyways, so why use 1,000mg/wk if all it takes is 250mg/wk? It’s pointless!!
As a safeguard you should use 10mg/day of nolvadex alongside this cycle, just in case you’re gyno prone from DBOL. I never was, and I ran countless Dbol cycles with never using nolvadex, but everyone is different and I cannot suggest not using it because if you got gyno I’d feel bad you took that advice.
Just remember, none of the bodybuilders back in the day used anti e’s and VERY FEW HAD GYNO ISSUES!! But like I said before, get it if you want to be 100% sure of it.
If you cannot find tabs then type in your search bar “Research chems, nolvadex” or “liquid nolvadex” and you’ll find research sites that sell it online. It’s easy to find and the liquid versions have always worked fine for me.
You will be running this cycle for 8 wks, first 6 wks on Dbol, then finish out the last 2 wks with just the test cycle. Remember, go look at “1 vial steroid cycle for beginners” on here to see how the test is ran.

Cycle 3 – Deca/Dbol

Deca/Dbol stack has been around for decades and if you can’t gain on this then steroids aren’t for you.
You’ll see no testosterone in here and it’s for cost reasons. Deca/Dbol has been run without test for years and guys make it sound like the anti-Christ, but the reality of it is it’s not bad if deca is kept conservative.
What you will need is 1/10cc vial of deca and 200/ 5mg tabs of Dbol. You’ll be using 5 tabs/day of Dbol split throughout the day(for first 40 days of cycle), and you’ll follow the “1 vial steroid cycle for beginners” only using Deca in place of the test. This cycle is an 8 wk run.
Don’t listen to the jive about how Deca is worthless if it’s not ran at least 15 wks, Deca can do plenty for you in 8 wks, trust me!!
If Deca was worthless for less than 12-15 wk runs then you basically discredit the majority of Golden era bodybuilders who predominately used steroids the last 8 wks before a competition just to help maintain muscle mass while dieting.

WHAT TO USE FOR RECOVERY

You’ll need 20 tabs of clomid here, and you should start your clomid 14 days after your last shot IN ANY 3 OF THESE CYCLES.
Why? Because you want the half life of the drugs to be out of you before you begin, this way it all goes to recovery and it’s not wasted. Run 1 tab of clomid (50mg) for 20 days.
Remember, without the food intake I don’t care what you use, it’s not going to happen!! You need gas for your engine or your car doesn’t run. Gear or no gear, get that diet straight first!!!!

What does ed mean

ED means every day
EOD means every other day

I'm assuming that Enth is Enanthate? Sorry newbie here and don't want to order the wrong thing.

Also, where is best injection site for Enth. & Deca.? And what is he best gauge of needle to use.? I will be doing Enth.-400mg and Deca-300mg. So that is 1.6ML of Enth. And 1ML of Deca. So 2.6ML a week total so should I get a 3CC Syringe and just put it all in at once and if so what gauge of needle? I am not scared of needles and have a lot of experience doing IVs and some IM. But never with this amount of CCs or these substances? So I guess my two questions are how should the 2.6ML be split up throughout the week or should it not be? What gauge of needle should I use? And lastly, what is the best injection spot? Any info will be greatly appreciated!

EKIII wrote:I'm assuming that Enth is Enanthate? Sorry newbie here and don't want to order the wrong thing.

Yeap. Is enanthate. be carefull as a 1st time being on cycle, test is very strong. At least you should be prepared for (i mean cardio and gym at least 1-2 years)

Hey I had planned on taking 20 mg Anavar and 50 mg winstrol orals everyday for 2 weeks then use clomid for 2 weeks. I dont think I could inject so this was gonna be my first cycle what do you guys think?

Siz1986 wrote:Hey I had planned on taking 20 mg Anavar and 50 mg winstrol orals everyday for 2 weeks then use clomid for 2 weeks. I dont think I could inject so this was gonna be my first cycle what do you guys think?

for 1st cycle is good. advising you to take for PCT and proviron, to keep the gains. and clomid better use 4 weeks.
injection better not to use as 1st cycle, unless you are prepared for it (good cardio and everyday gym works out)