I've been researching to see what Arnold was on, and found that he was stacking Primobolin with Dianabol. Is this correct, if so what else did he take? Just trying to find out.... What about Lou Ferrigno and Franco?

I'm pretty sure it would be near impossible to find out what the pros of yester year took. We can only go by rumors that were started a long time ago.

Why worry about the gear they took years ago when we now know so much more about AAS...

Because, it's just a good thing to know. Think of it as a history lessons or something of the sort....

yea, you're right, i guess that some of that can be interesting to research, i just meant that i wouldn't be quick to apply what i learn about former pro's AAS use to my own...just my opionion tho bro

-Chase

I've often heard that Arnold used Dbol with primo or dbol with deca as his mainstay.

Hey bro I was thinking the same thing recently after watching pumping iron and I found this:

The following is the quoted post from Elite:


Newbie cycles that vets could learn from. (post #1)

NEWBIES..... you would do very well following this advice.
Vets.......... maybe we have something to learn still.

After doing much digging in regard to the way men used to cycle years ago I have come to the conclusion that 98% of us use too much gear....please read on.

I have always been a believer in using as little gear as possible but even I have used way too much in the past and this has resulted in big sides.

Here are examples of cycles used by the pro's of the late 60's and 70's. They were certainly well developed men actually looked better then most of the pro's today IMHO.

My Hero The late great Mike Mentzer was considered a man living on the edge in the late 70's and up until he retired after the 80 Olympia.

MIKE MENTZER
In prep for the 80 Olympia Mike used 400 of deca and 20 or 30 of D-bol per day. I think it was actually 20 of d-bol . I believe he took the d-bol for 4-6 weeks only.This was considered a BIG dose of juice. This was published in his "Heavy Duty Journal" and was well know . Mike was one of the only Bodybuilders that made "no bones" about his roid use.
Now Mike was a big guy and very strong and walked around in the off season at about 250 fairly lean pounds at 5'-9"

ARNOLD
He reported liked 600 of primo and 50 of d-bol per day.

SERGIO
This huge bro used 200 of deca/week and 20 of winny per day.

FRANK ZANE
Frank likeed 100 of deca and 100 of primo and was know to use a little thyroid as well.

DAVE DRAPER
Dave used 25 of winny per day way back in the late 60's

LARRY SCOTT
Larry used 10 of d-bol in divided doses per day. This was considered a large dose back in the mid 60's

Now all these guys are bigger than 95% of the members of this board I am sure and if they didn't need large doses then why do you?
Do what they did......be a lifter first and then use a little roid as a SUPPLEMENT.

Unless you are 40 or more pounds above your natural maximum weight AND are a top competitor I see no reason to use high doses of gear. Even Quadsweep "The Voice of Reason" who is a top national level competitor doesn't use half the juice that many of you use.

It has been said by many that gains made slowly and in smaller jumps are kept better. I for one strongly believe this. The human body is not meant to gain 30 pounds of bulk in 8 weeks..much of that will be lost post cycle as the body just can't hold it all at once. It makes much better sence to gain slowly but surely. It is better for your health and the low doses avoid the puffy watery look that was not even acceaptable in the off season in 1975.


Perhaps we all need to re-think how we use steroids.

Realgains suggestions for the newbies.

200 of deca/week for 10 weeks and 10- 20 of d-bol per day for 4-6 weeks in divided doses.

200 of deca/week for 10 weeks and 25 of winstrol per day for 4-6 weeks

250 of test alone for 8-10 weeks

250-400 of primo alone

250-300 of EQ alone

10-20 of d-bol alone in four divided doses per day for 6 weeks



The above was quoted from Elite's member, "Realgains."

Bump to gutterboy that post is also on bodybuilding universe.com as well.

later

sgammons

what would be the point of a dbol only cycle? would any real gains be kept?

Hey chasem, I have a buddy that uses a dbol cycle only. He gets pretty good gains IMO. I believe he takes anywhere from 20-40 dbol per day, and is very satisfied with his results.....