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    Lean bulk cycle please, 12 weeks

    JaggroStone
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    Post by JaggroStone Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:48 am

    Hello guys, how are you all?

    Just need some advice on my next cycle if you have time to help, please!

    A bit of background info to start us off!

    Previous cycle: 6 weeks, prop 100 / Tren Acc 100 (mg) eod
    Previous diet: Calorie deficit

    Next cycle:

    Planned duration: 12 weeks
    Cycle number: 4
    Planned diet: Calorie excess (clean bulk)
    Planned Cycle:
    Test cypionate (whats the other name for it on this site?) - 500 - 600 mg ew
    primobolan - 500 - 600 mg ew


    or instead of primo, what about masteron? Not sure what dosage and lenth of this though.

    No orals please.

    PCT: clomid + HCG
    Gyno experience: None, no experience of symptons on previous cycles.

    If you can help me, Id very much appreciate your time, thank you.
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    Post by federico Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:54 am

    good cicle
    for me is good add some drol or diana but no orals..BP has also diana inj..with a clean diet,you can do two days with more calories and one day with less calories...
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    Post by o2jumper Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:54 am

    FYI Jaggro and Federico, if you do not want orals due to liver toxicity the dbol, whether oral or injectable, has the same affect on the liver due to its chemical make up.
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    Post by JaggroStone Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:35 pm

    show me some 'set in stone' evidence that injectables are toxic to the liver.
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    Post by federico Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:14 pm

    only personal experiences
    in the past i only use inj products aa17 (winny) and the end of the cicle i have liver values only few alterate
    last cicle i was use a good amount of aa17 oral and tren and i have really high values at the end of cicle!
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    Post by NTG Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:59 pm

    JaggroStone wrote:show me some 'set in stone' evidence that injectables are toxic to the liver.

    "averbol" or any other injectable D-bol is 17AA its just pu into in injectable form. Its different than an esterd injectable.
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    Post by NTG Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:39 pm

    Methandienone- "d-bol"
    17beta-Hydroxy-17alpha-methylandrosta-1,4-dien-3-one.
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    Post by NTG Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:18 pm

    This is straight from england and is posted in the profile section.

    Pharmaceutical Name: Averbol

    Chemical name: Methandienone

    Chem. Abstr. Name: 17beta-Hydroxy-17alpha-methylandrosta-1,4-dien-3-one

    Molecular Structure: C20H28O2

    Molecular Weight: 300.4

    Product Description
    Averbol is an injectable form of methandienone. Methandienone iis a derivative of testosterone and has a very strong anabolic and androgenic effect. It has a great effect on protein metabolism and promotes protein synthesis. This effect manifests itself in by creating a positive nitrogen balance, supporting the builidup of protein and, thus, skeletal muscle mass. Methandienone also induces an improved sense of well-being.

    Indications:
    Appetite stimulation, increased muscle mass, increased bone density, increased red blood cells.
    Presentation:
    Each 20 ml multidose vial contains 25 mg per ml and comes with a red coloured top.



    Do some research before you call someone out bud.
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    Post by JaggroStone Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:50 pm

    Okay fair enough, but thats a relatively new injectable and I think, I think only BP make it? That true?????

    Tried to look for some experiments with using but just came up with BP gear.

    What others then are liver toxic and made by different labs?

    Anyways, I have a few other cycles jotted down, what do you think of these?

    Test enan @ 750mg ew
    Deca @ 400 ew

    or

    Test enan @ 750mg ew
    Eq @ 800 mg ew

    or

    Sust @ ????
    Tren enan @ ????
    (Still doing more reading)

    I will run this for 10 weeks, any suggestions?
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    Post by NTG Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:49 am

    Any injecible D-bol is of the same compasition and is liver toxic.
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