I'm on my second OT cycle. Earlier this year I ran 40mg ed with liv52 and cranberry extract for 6 weeks and ended up with a nice lean mass gain of 7lbs. I am 2 weeks into my second cycle of the same. Lean mass gains are my goals and I tell ya for 38 I look pretty damn good. OT is amazing. My diet is in check. I did nolva last time for PCT, but think I could have done better. Any suggestions please? Someone mentioned tribulus?

trib +letro would be good for a PCT. clomid + Nol would work to. 1 thing i would reccomend is next time to run a low dose of Test enth with the oral and I think you'll love the results you get even more.

Wow...your taking OT w/o a Test base? You should atleast run a low dose of 250mg Test Cyp per week or jump on some Test Prop while you are on the OT. If anything i would definatly suggest you jump on a good tribulus terrestes supp.

I would say run Trib+Clomid+Aromoa(or Letro) for a good PCT. And it wouldnt hurt if you extended the use of Aroma or Letro beyond PCT to keep the estrogen down and natural test up.

Thanks bro's. I will take your advice on the running a test base for my next ot cycle. I've was very happy with the results from my last OT cycle as put on very lean mass w/o blowing up (My goal), but it seems from what I hear just a low amount of test for a base is the way to go as it will replace from being shutdown.

What were the details of your OT cycle..length, dosages of PCT, ect. I'm considering doing something similar.

Kappa411 wrote:What were the details of your OT cycle..length, dosages of PCT, ect. I'm considering doing something similar.

A good t-bol cycle would be:

wk 1-10 Test E: 250-500mg/wk
wk 1-6 t-bol 50mg/day

What would you recamed for PCT for that cycle?

An excellent pct for that cycle would be:

wk 1: clomid 100mg/day, aromasin 25mg/day
wk 2: clomid 100mg/day, aromasin 25mg/day
wk 3: clomid 50mg/day, aromasin 25mg/day
wk 4-6: aromasin 12.5mg/day

I'm no expert but this is my upcoming six-week cycle:

Days 1 - 10: OT @ 40mg/day
Days 11-42: OT @ 50mg/day

This uses all 200 t-bol so I'm not wasting any - hey, these things matter.

Day 43: 300mg Clomid, 40mg Nolva
Days 44-56: 100mg Clomid, 40mg Nolva
Days 57-70: 50mg Clomid, 20mg Nolva

Basically six weeks of OT starting at 40mg building up to 50mg/day, then two weeks of 100mg Clomid + 40mg Nolva and two weeks of 50mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva. First day of PCT is 300mg Clomid to get me started.

Hope this helps in some way, feel free to critique.

Nolva's an anti-estrogen and Clomid boosts natural test, it's supposed to be a good combo. Might be worth a try thread starter.