I'm 26 yrs old 5'6'' 10%bf.....I've run a few basic cycles consisting of Test E and deca. ....oh, yeah I ran tren A once. For some reason, I was thinkin bout tossin in some t-bol or var....What do you guys think is better for adding strength, size, keepable gains and least amount of sides"acne", T-bol or the Var??
Also, whats the difference between D-bol and T-bol??

Thanx yall

StEeL OrGaNz wrote:I'm 26 yrs old 5'6'' 10%bf.....I've run a few basic cycles consisting of Test E and decca. ....oh, yeah I ran tren A once. For some reason, I was thinkin bout tossin in some t-bol or var....What do you guys think is better for adding strength, size, keepable gains and least amount of sides"acne", T-bol or the Var??
Also, whats the difference between D-bol and T-bol??

Thanx yall

Let's see...I haven't used Var, but I have used Tbol. Tbol is cheaper than Var, and from what I have read has better quality gains than Var. The differenve between Tbol and Dbol could be Dbol is cheaper, gives you more bloat, more sides (gyno, water rentention), is more toxic to your liver than Tbol, but will add some nice size to you. I have been told Tbol is like a mixture between Var and Dbol. I love Tbol it's amazing stuff, no water retention, great strength gains, very keepable muscle mass gains, and pumps were out of this world!

I've used both..Var is great for hardness and vascularity and strength....better for the summer, or a cutting cycle.

The Tbol is better for overall size gains...a bit of water retention and bloat, but very noticeable size gains, very little sides, maybe a very small amount of acne for those who are sensitive and again, some water, pre-gyno in high doses if you are prone.

Either way they are both excellent compounds, I would recommend either one made by BD.

I have only used Tbol but it's definitly a product I would use again. For the price to gains raito it seems to have var beat!

As Far As The Comparisons The Guys Hit It Right On The Head.turanabol -ot As It Is Called Is A Deriative Of D-bol.its Structurally A Cross Between Methandrostenolone And Clostebol Having The Same Base Structure As D-bol With The Added 4-chloro Alteration Of Closetbol.this Makes It A Kinder,gentler D-bol.it Has A Much Lower Androgenic Activity Than D-bol But A More Favorable Balance Of Anabolic To Androgenic Effect Overall.this Means Ot Is Much Less Likely To Produce The Classic Side Effects As D-bol And Its Also Inhibited To Be Aromatised So Water Retention, Gyno, And Fat Deposition Is Not Going To Effect The User

Average Dose: 20mg per day
Half Life: 8 hours
Water Retention: minimal to zero
Aromatization: No
DHT Conversion: none

Oral-Turinabol is an oral steroid which was developed during the early 1960"s.

OT has a predominantly anabolic effect which is combined with a relatively low androgenic component. On a scale of 1 to 100 the androgenic effect is very low only a 6- and the anabolic effect is 53. (In comparison: the androgenic effect of Dianabol is 45 and its anabolic effect is 90.) Oral-Turinabol thus has milligram for milligram a lower effect than Dianabol. It is therefore not a steroid that causes a rapid gain in strength, weight, and muscle mass. Rather, the achievable results manifest themselves in a solid muscle gain and, if taken over several weeks, also in a good strength gain. The athlete will certainly not get a puffy look as is the case with Testosterone, Dianabol, and Anadrol 50. The maximum blood concentration of Oral-Turinabol when taking 10, 20 or 40 mg/day is 1.5 -3.5 or 4.5 times the endogenous testosterone concentration (also see Dianabol). This clearly shows that the effectiveness of this compound strongly depends on the dosage.

0.4 x pound (body weight) x days = number of tablets to take overall during the interval of intake
mg / tablet

An athlete weighing 200 pounds would take only 2 tablets of 10 mg (20mg/day.) Bodybuilders take 8-10 tablets of 5 mg, that is 40-50 mg/day. Many enthusiastically report good results with this dosage: one builds a solid muscle mass, the strength gain is worthwhile seeing, the water retention is very low, and the estrogen caused side effects are rare. Not without good reason OT is also popular among powerlifters and weightlifters who appreciate these characteristics.

Due to its characteristics OT is also a suitable steroid both for men and women in competitions. A usually very effective stack for male bodybuilders consists of 50 mg OT/day, 228 mg Parabolan/week, and 150 mg Winstrol Depot/week. Those who have brought their body fat content to a low level by dieting and/or by using fatburning substances (e.g. Clenbuterol, Ephedrine, Salbutamol, Cytomel, Triacana), will find that the above steroid combination will manifest itself in hard, sharply defined but still dense and full muscles. No enlarged breasts, no estrogen surplus, and no watery, puffy looking muscle system. If OT were available on the U.S. black market for steroids, bodybuilders, powerlifters, and weightlifters would go crazy for this East German anabolic.

OT enjoys a great popularity since it is quickly broken down by the body and the metabolites are excreted relatively quickly through the urine. The often posed question regarding how many days before a test OT can be taken in order to be "clean" is difficult to answer specifically or in general. We know from a reli-able source that athletes who only take OT as a steroid and who, in part, take dosages of 10- 15 tablets/day, have discontinued the com-pound exactly five days before a doping test and tested negative. These indications are supported by the fact that even positive urine analyses have rarely mentioned the names Oral-Turinabol or chlordehydromethyl-testosterone.

The potential side effects of OT usually depend on the dosage level and are gender-specific. in women, depending on their predisposition, the usual virilization symptoms occur and increase when dosages of more than 20 mg per day are taken over a prolonged time. In men the already discussed reduced testosterone production can rarely be avoided. Gynecomastia occurs rarely with OT Since the response of the water and electrolyte household is not overly dis-tinct athletes only rarely report water retention and high blood pressure. Acne, gastrointestinal pain, and uncontrolled aggressive behavior are also the exception rather than the rule with OT An increased libido is reported in most cases by both sexes. Since the substance chlordehydromethyltestosterone is 17-alpha alkylated the manufacturer in its package insert recommends that the liver func-tion be checked regularly since it can be negatively affected by high dosages and the risk of possible liver damage cannot be excluded. Thus OT is also a steroid that can be taken without interruption for long intervals. Studies of male athletes who over a period of six weeks were given 10 mg OT/day did not show any indications of health-threatening effects.