I just started a new cycle ( 3rd cycle) consisiting of :

40mg T-Bol ED

500 mg of test cyp.

I am into week 3 and very very tired during the day. Exhausted.

My training hasn't changed. 4 days on 3 days off. Been doing this for 10 years now. Not overtraining.

After doing some searching and reading on t-bol I noticed alot of threads starting off saying.. Going to kick start my cycle with some t-bol.

Then I noticed a thread saying t-bol could shut you down till the test kicks in.

So whats the deal with t-bol ?

Doesn't make sense to start with t-bol if it shuts you down.

I would rather have waited til the test kicked in then started the t-bol.

If anyone had info to this might help alot of people doing a ccycle with t-bol.

I am having great results now with the t-bol , pumped and gaining hard muscle. It is a slow gainer but I like the harg gains I have made so far.

But to be this drained during the day isn't worth it to me.

Thanks

try upping your carbs a bit and get some vit b-12 that should help with the lethargy, but in some tbol can do that..my buddy was shut down from it when he ran it alone however i had no problems what so ever

Ok,

I'll up the carbs a bit and get some b-12.

Thanks for the help

I believe it caused some shutdown in me as far as libido goes. I don't think I was really tired though. When I started taking 25mg of Proviron ED it helped with the libido.

Well I do have some prov sitting to the side but was hesitant to take 2 orals at the same time.

Being a noob to gear ( not lifting) was wondering if maybe I need to raise my mg on the test.

As cycles go on do you have to raise the mg of your test ?

I am on hrt during my off cycle. Will be 40 in August and had a prescription for test.

I do 200mg during my off cycle.

Is it possible that I need to up my test to say 750mg a week due to my receptors ?


Maybe I am not getting enough ?

Thanks

hey bro if you got the proviron go with that.its not a c-17 alpha alkylated compound so this removes the risk of liver toxity and is considered a "safe oral"

You should be taking something for your liver too. Milk thistle should be enough to cover your liver. I recommend taking 1000mg ED.

I have liv 52 I take 2x a day.

I will add the prov and see how that works out.

Thanks Guys

I havent had any issues and i have been taking my Proviron with it.