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    Post by Stellen Mon Aug 08, 2016 7:38 am

    Ok here is my question I was on a program by my DR. consisting of TRT of .5cc 2xAW
    Well then I went a higher gear cycle without his advice of :

    1-12 Testaplex C 500mg/wk (1.5cc mon, 1cc thurs)
    1-11 Decaplex 400mg/wk (1.5cc mon) 1.5cc is actually 412.5 but...
    1-4 Methanoplex 30mg/day
    1-14 Tamoxiplex 10mg/day
    1-14 Proviroplex 25mg/day
    1-12 500iu of HCG 2x per week
    1-12 anastrozole 1.1mg 2x per week

    Now that my cycle has ended and now I will be doing PCT of:

    Clomid (Clomiplex) 100mg/day for 21days
    Aromasin (Exeplex) 25mg/day for 35-40days

    Now my question is this…
    Question #1 = Is there anything i'm missing in PCT?
    Question #2 = Should I or can I continue my TRT of .5cc 2x per week? Or should I stop?
    Question #3 = how soon can I start my next cycle, 12 weeks?
    Question #4 = should I continue anastrozole 1.1mg 2x per week in my PCT?

    Thank you in advance for your advice.
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    Post by gustavo77 Mon Aug 08, 2016 8:31 am

    Stellen wrote:Ok here is my question I was on a program by my DR. consisting of TRT of .5cc 2xAW
    Well then I went a higher gear cycle without his advice of :

    1-12 Testaplex C 500mg/wk (1.5cc mon, 1cc thurs)
    1-11 Decaplex 400mg/wk (1.5cc mon) 1.5cc is actually 412.5 but...
    1-4 Methanoplex 30mg/day
    1-14 Tamoxiplex 10mg/day
    1-14 Proviroplex 25mg/day
    1-12 500iu of HCG 2x per week
    1-12 anastrozole 1.1mg 2x per week

    Now that my cycle has ended and now I will be doing PCT of:

    Clomid (Clomiplex) 100mg/day for 21days
    Aromasin (Exeplex) 25mg/day for 35-40days

    Now my question is this…
    Question #1 = Is there anything i'm missing in PCT?
    Question #2 = Should I or can I continue my TRT of .5cc 2x per week? Or should I stop?
    Question #3 = how soon can I start my next cycle, 12 weeks?
    Question #4 = should I continue anastrozole 1.1mg 2x per week in my PCT?

    Thank you in advance for your advice.


    1. Your pct is perfect
    2. You do not run a pct if you are on TRT, you will not recover while on TRT and you wasting the clomid and aroma.
    3. 12-16 weeks after pct is completed, if you run pct.
    4. no, only take aroma during you pct

    Also no need to take nolva and adex together on cycle....adex will suffice for estrogen issues.
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    Post by Stellen Mon Aug 08, 2016 9:22 am

    do you think i should continue TRT of .5cc 2x a week or just drop that all together? im 35 almost 36 and before i started TRT by my DR. i was at like 300 total now im at 2700 total. I want to run another cycle in 12 weeks or so but i'm worried that if i continue TRT i will not get as good of gains then due to receptor shut down what do you think or is receptor shut down only a factor in Deca?
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    Post by gustavo77 Mon Aug 08, 2016 10:12 am

    Stellen wrote:do you think i should continue TRT of .5cc 2x a week or just drop that all together? im 35 almost 36 and before i started TRT by my DR. i was at like 300 total now im at 2700 total. I want to run another cycle in 12 weeks or so but i'm worried that if i continue TRT i will not get as good of gains then due to receptor shut down what do you think or is receptor shut down only a factor in Deca?

    I can only give you my opinion and i am not a doc obviously but....35-36 is not that old bro. You may be able to get your natural test levels up to a good range with an aggressive pct and may be some additional HCG therapy...i would try to recover first with pct drugs before i made a decision to go on TRT. I am 33 and have just finished a 6 month cycle..i am currently on an aggressive pct but even if i do not recover before my next cycle, i will at least be giving my body a break from the drugs.
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    Post by Stellen Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:00 am

    gustavo77 wrote:I can only give you my opinion and i am not a doc obviously but....35-36 is not that old bro. You may be able to get your natural test levels up to a good range with an aggressive pct and may be some additional HCG therapy...i would try to recover first with pct drugs before i made a decision to go on TRT. I am 33 and have just finished a 6 month cycle..i am currently on an aggressive pct but even if i do not recover before my next cycle, i will at least be giving my body a break from the drugs.

    I see thanks for your opinion, I really do not care to continue TRT but to continue running AAS cycles I love to train and well you know. I think i will take you advice and stop the TRT and try the PCT for the time being.
    Knowing what i have posted do you have any recommendations for my next cycle? it will be my 3rd. At the moment I am 235lbs 6-2" with about 12% body fat I want to get more mass and I feel I want an agressive cycle. D-bol ? T-Bol? I don't know what is better. i like the test c. I stacked on with Deca but I want more! My goal is to get to about 265lbs. Please advise what you think I should do for my 3 cycle. Thank You
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    Post by gustavo77 Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:35 am

    Well, for me it is simple....test, tren and GH, with an oral at the beginning and the end..

    1-12 Sustaplex 0.5-0.75cc/ml eod
    1-11 tren a 100mg eod
    1-4 d-bol 30-40mg/day
    8-13 t-bol 50mg/day
    1-12 cabaser 0.5mg e3rd
    1-14 adex or aromasin ed
    1-(4 days before pct starts) HCG 500iu 2x per week

    6 months minimum: GH 5 days on, 2 days off (start at 2iu and gradually work your way up to 4-6 iu/day)
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    Post by Visions Mon Aug 08, 2016 12:09 pm

    My questions to you are: Did you cycle before you went to your Dr to get blood work done?... if so, how long from the end of the cycle to getting blood work done? How long have you been cycling? Have you had libido problems between your cycles and if so how long has this been going on...

    To me 300 is low and you should be on TRT , unless you just came off a cycle without a proper pct and enough time to recover... I first noticed a drop in my libido at 35yrs old and 2yrs later I got blood work done and my level was 400... I then got on TRT...
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    Post by Stellen Mon Aug 08, 2016 1:08 pm

    Visions wrote:My questions to you are: Did you cycle before you went to your Dr to get blood work done?... if so, how long from the end of the cycle to getting blood work done? How long have you been cycling? Have you had libido problems between your cycles and if so how long has this been going on...

    To me 300 is low and you should be on TRT , unless you just came off a cycle without a proper pct and enough time to recover... I first noticed a drop in my libido at 35yrs old and 2yrs later I got blood work done and my level was 400... I then got on TRT...

    When I first started going to the Dr. i had never cycled before so that blood work with a 300 was accurate. No libido problems what so ever. So i went on TRT for a few months loved the tes. then went into a stronger cycle with Deca for 8 weeks then off for 8 weeks and did another cycle for 8 weeks, off again and now just finished up a 12 week cycle as posted above.
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    Post by Stellen Mon Aug 08, 2016 2:06 pm

    gustavo77 wrote:Well, for me it is simple....test, tren and GH, with an oral at the beginning and the end..

    1-12 Sustaplex 0.5-0.75cc/ml eod
    1-11 tren a 100mg eod
    1-4 d-bol 30-40mg/day
    8-13 t-bol 50mg/day
    1-12 cabaser 0.5mg e3rd
    1-14 adex or aromasin ed
    1-(4 days before pct starts) HCG 500iu 2x per week

    6 months minimum: GH 5 days on, 2 days off (start at 2iu and gradually work your way up to 4-6 iu/day)

    what do you think about some of these quotes reguarding Sustaplex?:
    ~ Stack with Primo & Winny and watch what happens. BUT... don't forget the proviron!
    ~ 1 cc every 4 days stacked with 1 cc of Parabolon for 10 weeks will have you looking like your ready to chew a hole through the side of your house. Excellent test product.Hardly any water retention if any when stacking with tren.
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    Post by Visions Mon Aug 08, 2016 2:43 pm

    Stellen wrote:what do you think about some of these quotes reguarding Sustaplex?:
    ~ Stack with Primo & Winny and watch what happens. BUT... don't forget the proviron!
    ~ 1 cc every 4 days stacked with 1 cc of Parabolon for 10 weeks will have you looking like your ready to chew a hole through the side of your house. Excellent test product.Hardly any water retention if any when stacking with tren.

    Forget those quotes cause they are subjective to the thread they were in...

    Anyway in the PM you asked me to check out this thread and I have already answered all your questions within the PM...

    With a level of 300 you need TRT... You stay on TRT forever... when you come off a cycle you get right back on TRT and I already explained how to do it with whatever type of Test you used during the cycle within the PM... Down regulating receptors is for when you run too long of cycles or never cycle off... TRT has nothing to do with that... TRT is a replacement amount of test and isn't a cycle or considered as continuing a cycle... When you are on TRT you don't do PCT
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    Post by Stellen Tue Aug 09, 2016 4:00 am

    gustavo77 wrote:Well, for me it is simple....test, tren and GH, with an oral at the beginning and the end..

    1-12 Sustaplex 0.5-0.75cc/ml eod
    1-11 tren a 100mg eod
    1-4 d-bol 30-40mg/day
    8-13 t-bol 50mg/day
    1-12 cabaser 0.5mg e3rd
    1-14 adex or aromasin ed
    1-(4 days before pct starts) HCG 500iu 2x per week

    6 months minimum: GH 5 days on, 2 days off (start at 2iu and gradually work your way up to 4-6 iu/day)

    what about throwing in a little eq into the equasion?

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