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    Post by dez Mon Apr 10, 2017 4:35 am

    I'm going to do a cycle of a50, sus and deca.

    week 1-3 anadrol 1 tab day
    week 1-4 sustanon 250 a week
    week 5 no roids take shot of hcg and clomid for week
    week 6-8 200mg 1 a week
    week 10-11 hcg every 5 days for 3 shots
    week 12-14 clomid

    what do you think of taking clomid and hcg in between to help stop test from shutting off completely.
    good idea or bad and why?
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    Post by dez Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:08 am

    week 6-8 200mg 1 a week is supposed to be deca.
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    Post by chasem0420 Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:57 am

    Deca for only two weeks??
    is this some method of cycling that i'm clueless about or what??
    if so, please enlighten me..

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    Post by chainsawdog99 Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:52 am

    Since you are using sust for only 4 weeks I imagen you are trying to take advantage of the short acting esters; be sure to spread your weekly mgs into at least 3 injections to keep the levels of those esters consistant. I think test prop would be better for only 4 weeks.

    I haven't seen a cycle that is interupted in the middle with PCT drugs - is this a proven way to cycle?
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    Post by sgammons Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:52 am

    IMO you don't need to stop taking sust in the middle of a cycle and also you don't need to take just one shot a week, because you have to keep your blood levels up and even, and also if I were you I would just take the hcg while my cycle is going, maybe 500 iu's a week or 500 iu's 2 x per week.

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    Post by sgammons Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:52 am

    And remember something elsr I would never take deca eq or things like that without test at teh same time because it can cause problems down below and the test level really needs to be the highest over anything else.

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    Post by coolkat Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:46 am

    Seems like if taking HCG on cycle 500 iu 2x/week seems to be the way to go. As per "Dr. Swales"s posts.
    Anyone think it would be OK to do just 500 iu 1x/week ???

    This would be for a 12-14 week cycle of Tes cyp-400mg/week, nandro phenylprop-400mg/week, and Turanabol 20mg/day weeks 1-7.

    Or,
    would I save it for my more androgenic winter cycle ????
    Or,
    500iu per week for less androgenic cycles 500iu 2x/week for more androgenic cycles.
    I always finish w/clomid, trib. tess, ZMA, cordyceps powder, and phosphatydl serine.

    Thanks for any opinions.
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    Post by coolkat Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:21 am

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    Post by Cannons Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:15 am

    coolkat wrote:Seems like if taking HCG on cycle 500 iu 2x/week seems to be the way to go. As per "Dr. Swales"s posts.
    Anyone think it would be OK to do just 500 iu 1x/week ???

    This would be for a 12-14 week cycle of Tes cyp-400mg/week, nandro phenylprop-400mg/week, and Turanabol 20mg/day weeks 1-7.

    Or,
    would I save it for my more androgenic winter cycle ????
    Or,
    500iu per week for less androgenic cycles 500iu 2x/week for more androgenic cycles.
    I always finish w/clomid, trib. tess, ZMA, cordyceps powder, and phosphatydl serine.

    Thanks for any opinions.

    Its all in how your body responds to the HCG and the gear bro.HCG has a 3-4 day half life so to keep levels even you'd have to inject it every 3-4 days.So if you were to start out with 500iu per week, split it up to 250iu twice per week.I found that this was to low.500iu twice per week kept my testicles from shrinking down to nothing.Technically speaking, the heavier the cycle, the higher dose of HCG, but everyone is different, you'll have to experiment with yourself.Also, if 500iu twice weekly doesn't do it, try 250iu eod.All of this is recommended in swales protocol.After your cycle is done, if you've done a long cycle with high doses (12 weeks or more at 1g and above) I would suggest while in between the last inject and PCT to do 1000iu eod for 2 weeks, then start your PCT right afterwards with clomid and all else you've listed.However, if you could continue the 500iu twice weekly all the way up to PCT.You'll have to see what works for you.
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    Post by coolkat Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:59 am

    Thanks Cannons.
    I guess I would want to be conservative so of speak as not to overdo the HCG and desensitize the testicles to LH/FSH forever.
    I'm leaning towards maybe 500iu every 4th day stopping 10 days before Clomid. I've done 3 injections of 500iu the past 2 weeks and my balls have enlarged, so we'll see.

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