What do u guys think about my first cycle. This is what i was thinking about. Trenbolone enth.200wk,Test enth 250wk, andWinnie 150wk

What are you stats? What are your goals? How long you plan on running this? What does your PCT look like?

Tren is not for first time users, especially tren enathate bro. If you start to experience sides from the tren which can be harsh for some people you'll have to deal for a good two to three weeks before it is out of your system, due to the long ester. Also, IMHO winny is not really a good drug for first time users either, it can dry out your joints making you susceptable to injuries. For a first cycle most knowledgable people will recommend a test only cycle, with mabe a mild oral like t-bol thrown in there. Initially it is best to give us more info on your stats, goals etc, then we can point you in the right direction. Peace.

gustavo77 wrote:Tren is not for first time users,

BIG BUMP......i missed that he said it is his first cycle. Listen to Gustavo and stick with a test only cycle.

Im using 500mg sust and 200mg deca and seeing good results week two now and gained 10lbs so far listen to the more experianced guys give them your stats and they will give you some good info. later bro

gustavo77 wrote:Tren is not for first time users, especially tren enathate bro. If you start to experience sides from the tren which can be harsh for some people you'll have to deal for a good two to three weeks before it is out of your system, due to the long ester. Also, IMHO winny is not really a good drug for first time users either, it can dry out your joints making you susceptable to injuries. For a first cycle most knowledgable people will recommend a test only cycle, with mabe a mild oral like t-bol thrown in there. Initially it is best to give us more info on your stats, goals etc, then we can point you in the right direction. Peace.

to add to this tren shuts u down extremely bad making pct hell and for the first timer were as u have never roided before and u have never had a major shut down like this it is quite possible that it could take a month or 2 to get ur test levels back to normal even with proper pct.

and bro why are ur dosages so low

bro I say do the cycle gustavo is doing man..He has been talling me his gains are amazing with some fantastic pumps..

now what was it again gustavo test e 500mg/week weeks 1-10 then weeks 1-5 40mg of tbol a day...well something like that I am sure he will correct me

bump to all the fella's on this one,bad first cycle!!tren and winny shouldn't be used for a first cycle.

To me you have the right idea with the dosage for each,,, low dose Test with a non aromatising steroid= less negative sides ... That cycle would work fine Except that Tren can cause problems and I think your first cycle should be simple without complications... Even though I prefer low dose Test with every cycle I think you should experience a moderate dose of Test to see how you react...

Test only
Test + Tbol
Test + EQ

I would pick Test + Tbol


When you are ready for Tren I will walk you through it...

I would like some advice on how i should stack my first cycle. I started two weeks ago taking trenbolone enanthate 200mg/week and then test enanthate 250mg/week. I'm going into my third week and i was wondering if i should stop taking the test and start taking 150mg/week of winstrol to get a more ripped look. I dont want any strong side effects from the test and i know that the trenbolone can increase the estrogenic effects of other steroids. I have also read that the first cycle should be a bulker cycle, but my body make up is more of a bulky build. I am not new to lifting but this time around I'm trying to get a more cut look, because in the past i was lifting for pure strength for football. I'm 6'tall and weigh 265lbs 16% body fat and 27 years old. Any advice would be great. Sorry if this message is way too long.
Thanks

You need the Test so dont stop it...

You don't need winny...
Next you will only get ripped when you loose the fat and thats about diet and cardio and not really steroids...

Finally by the questions you asked it tells me you didn't research enough... You only have one body so you better treat it right and learn everything you can...

I would be taking Cabaser with that cycle...

Visions wrote:You need the Test so dont stop it...

You don't need winny...
Next you will only get ripped when you loose the fat and thats about diet and cardio and not really steroids...

Finally by the questions you asked it tells me you didn't research enough... You only have one body so you better treat it right and learn everything you can...

I would be taking Cabaser with that cycle...

Big Bump to Visions...

Taking Tren E, want ing to drop test in replacement for whinny....who/what put these thoughts into your head?

Forget the whinny and stick with the Test and Tren. I hope you have atleast researched a PCT and have one in place. Be careful with the Tren bro.

Keep the cycle as it is no need to change it. Tren isnt really a first cycle choice but its to late for that but on a good note you are using low doses. Id just work out diet and try to lean out.

Tren is going to give you more side then test ever will tren is a very strong compound.